Pogoplug v4 nand/ram questions.

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Pogoplug v4 nand/ram questions.

Postby assimilat » Sun Oct 13, 2013 1:26 pm

Hi I bought the ppv4 with the intent of installing arch on it to use as a wifi AP and it has been working great for the past 2 weeks! The only real downside to the device ive found is the lack of ram. In my configuration I have Arch installed onto a 500GB SATA drive and I performed the steps from the main archlinuxarm page for the installation.

So my first question...Is the nand being used for anything at this point now? Its unclear to me if arch's uboot is chainloaded from mtd0 or if its entirely independent of the nand all together. In either case I have no intention of ever reverting to the stock fw so would it be possible/(un?)wise to use the nand as a swap space? I was thinking of trying to recompile the kernel with CONFIG_MTD_SWAP enabled. I know that nand is far from the best media to use as a swapspace but for this im just intending on enabling it during compilations and other resource intensive applications i.e. it wont be on 24x7.

tldr...If I have arch installed on a sata drive can I completely wipe the nand? If not completely can I wipe mtd1-5 if I need mtd0 for uboot?

Second question...I have yet to pop the cover on the pp so I have next to no idea of what is integrated into the SoC and what is onboard (aside from the obvious i/o ports, buttons, power, etc...). Does anyone have a decent pic of both sides of the ppv4's board? I googled it for a while and couldnt find anything that wasnt just a partial or lo-res. My main intrest is the on board ram. If it isnt integrated into the SoC then im planning to hot-air a decent sized replacment on. (If it is integrated refer to my first question ;)) . Has anyone attempted this before? Does anyone know the manufacturer/pn or have a datasheet handy? More importantly (and a hard learned lesson attempting the same on a puma5 cable modem) are there any sort of restricitions in the uboot image to limit the device to certain part numbers?

Thanks for your help and thanks for a great distro to mate with this interesting device!
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Re: Pogoplug v4 nand/ram questions.

Postby assimilat » Sun Oct 13, 2013 1:52 pm

Looks like wikidevi has the ppv4's NAND listed as "128 MB (Hynix H27U1G8F2BTR)" and RAM as "128 MB (Hynix H5PS1G63EFR)" . I looked up the datasheet for the RAM and that PN says it is "1GB (64M x 16)" and it looks like the NAND is also 1GB but at "(128M x 8)". Am I missing something here? Why are there only 128MB of both nand and RAM available? Does the SoC claim a portion? I know I have to be overlooking something stupid.

Thanks again!
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Re: Pogoplug v4 nand/ram questions.

Postby WarheadsSE » Sun Oct 13, 2013 4:33 pm

There is only 128M of RAM. Period. That's the chip they put in.

As for the NAND, after formatting and bad block reservation, it is not quite 128, just like with hard drives.
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Re: Pogoplug v4 nand/ram questions.

Postby grayman4hire » Sun Oct 13, 2013 4:42 pm

I don't think you want to use the NAND as swap, especially when you already have a 500gb drive attached.

I've been looking into running OpenWrt on the NAND, otherwise embdebian is also possible I believe

Would be interesting if you could upgrade the RAM. I'm so envious of people that are about to solider RAM modules. To me it's black magic.
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Re: Pogoplug v4 nand/ram questions.

Postby assimilat » Sun Oct 13, 2013 5:12 pm

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')here is only 128M of RAM. Period. That's the chip they put in.

As for the NAND, after formatting and bad block reservation, it is not quite 128, just like with hard drives.


Facepalm....it was early in Tennessee when I made the initial post and I hadnt had any caffeine yet. I wasnt thinking about memory density vs capacity & bit vs byte. sorry about that.
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