Difference between B02 and BIZ02

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Difference between B02 and BIZ02

Postby technomensch » Wed Jun 29, 2011 8:48 pm

As you are aware, Cloud Engines has recalled the Pogoplug Video, unregistering those in the wild, and replacing them with PogoPlug Business.

While I know it comes with a wide range of more features, I'm trying to figure out where it stacks up in the world of the ArchLinux.

Are the B02 and BIZ02 supposed to be the same models? I personally don't think so.

When I do a cpuinfo, it looks like the same ARM processor in my older, slower Dockstar drive:

-bash-3.2# cat /proc/cpuinfo
Processor : ARM926EJ-S rev 1 (v5l)
BogoMIPS : 1192.75
Features : swp half thumb fastmult edsp
CPU implementer : 0x56
CPU architecture: 5TE
CPU variant : 0x2
CPU part : 0x131
CPU revision : 1
Cache type : write-back
Cache clean : cp15 c7 ops
Cache lockdown : format C
Cache format : Harvard
I size : 16384
I assoc : 4
I line length : 32
I sets : 128
D size : 16384
D assoc : 4
D line length : 32
D sets : 128

Hardware : Feroceon-KW
Revision : 0000
Serial : 0000000000000000

If I'm reading this correctly, it still only has 128MB of internal RAM:

-bash-3.2# df -h
Filesystem Size Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/mtdblock2 32.0M 15.0M 17.0M 47% /
none 125.0M 188.0k 124.8M 0% /tmp
/tmp/.cemnt/sda1 16.0T 268.5G 15.7T 2% /tmp/.cemnt/mnt_sda1


-bash-3.2# df -k
Filesystem 1k-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/mtdblock2 32768 15316 17452 47% /
none 128004 188 127816 0% /tmp
/tmp/.cemnt/sda1 17179738072 281515336 16898222736 2% /tmp/.cemnt/mnt_sda1

BUT, then I get this, which it contradicts it:

-bash-3.2# free
total used free shared buffers
Mem: 256012 253068 2944 0 27312
Swap: 0 0 0
Total: 256012 253068 2944
-bash-3.2# free -h

We weren't given the option to upgrade to the PRO version instead of the Business, but I'm wondering if even with more features, if I might have gotten a slower, and less powerful device in the long run.

Am I reading this correctly?

According to Wikipedia, the ARM926EJ-S rev 1 (v5l) processor is the same older one from my Dockstar, not the dual core one in the Pro and Video. But Cloud Engines isn't even selling the Pro anymore and End of Life'd the Video with the recall.

It is the same older ARM processor, the v5? or should I be looking to install for the v6?

Is it 128MB of RAM or 256MB of RAM?
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Re: Difference between B02 and BIZ02

Postby kmihelich » Wed Jun 29, 2011 9:39 pm

Same as the v2 pink pogo. I hope they didn't just trade you your $200 video for last month's clearance rack, there should be some other kind of compensation if so.
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Re: Difference between B02 and BIZ02

Postby technomensch » Thu Jun 30, 2011 1:06 am

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('kmihelich', 'S')ame as the v2 pink pogo. I hope they didn't just trade you your $200 video for last month's clearance rack, there should be some other kind of compensation if so.


Even the Cloud Engines website says that PogoPlug Business is $299.
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Re: Difference between B02 and BIZ02

Postby kmihelich » Thu Jun 30, 2011 3:07 am

Personally I think you got scammed. In reality, you're getting a (amazon retail price as of now for v2) $45 device with I guess a $250 software option. Their site does say you can customize the Business version to strip away all the Pogoplug branding, assign specific user accounts, and all that jazz. But if you're here, you're not using their crap. The Video on the other hand had a newer chip, and a likely somewhat expensive (albeit flame-inducing) video decoding card. The point being that you paid for $200 worth of hardware for the Video, and got $45 worth of hardware in return.
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Re: Difference between B02 and BIZ02

Postby technomensch » Thu Jun 30, 2011 4:16 am

I wish they had offered me the Buffalo CloudStor instead.

I have no idea what processor its using, and can't seem to find it on the web, but it's a better solution than a Drobo connected to a Pogo by having it all in one place. Esp since it's a v1 Drobo w/o the networking features.
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Re: Difference between B02 and BIZ02

Postby kmihelich » Thu Jun 30, 2011 4:22 am

I told you what the processor is already. It's the standard issue 1.2ghz Marvell Kirkwood chip. Same thing that's in the Sheeva, GoFlex, Dockstar, Pogo v1/v2, Guruplug, Dreamplug, and probably others I'm forgetting off the top of my head.
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Re: Difference between B02 and BIZ02

Postby technomensch » Thu Jun 30, 2011 10:33 am

I was talking about the processor in the Buffalo CloudStor, not the PPB.
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Re: Difference between B02 and BIZ02

Postby kmihelich » Thu Jun 30, 2011 12:44 pm

The CloudStor Pro uses the 1.6GHz Marvell Armada 300, which has lots of nice features. The regular version uses the stripped down 800MHz Armada 310.
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Re: Difference between B02 and BIZ02

Postby technomensch » Thu Jun 30, 2011 4:01 pm

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('kmihelich', 'T')he CloudStor Pro uses the 1.6GHz Marvell Armada 300, which has lots of nice features. The regular version uses the stripped down 800MHz Armada 310.


Thanks. BTW, I got a "quote/endquote" response for Cloud Engines via Facebook:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', ' ')Biz is a prosumer offerring with custom email, domain and skinning. The real value is the ability to add full Pogoplug user's to your Biz account; this is ideal for family members and trusted sub-contractors. For example, Biz sub-users can create and mange their own shares without asking the Biz owner to do it for them. Having said this, you are correct that BIZ02 uses a single-core ARM processor. This is the reason we included Pogoplug Software in the exchange to provide the same video streaming performance as Pogoplug Video. Buffalo is a terrific partner and if you don't need the customizations and sub-user functionality, CloudStor is certainly a viable choice. Hope we cleared this up.
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Re: Difference between B02 and BIZ02

Postby WarheadsSE » Thu Jun 30, 2011 4:05 pm

Everything they say will always remain to assume that you want to use their services.

If you don't plan on using their services, getting a refund and spending the $200 elsewhere certainly wouldn't hurt.
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