raspberry pi 3 feels sluggish compared to raspbian

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raspberry pi 3 feels sluggish compared to raspbian

Postby theseankelly » Sat Jan 28, 2017 3:48 am

Hi Forum

I'm pretty new to raspberry pi and arch in general (though I've used arch as a main OS many years ago). I'm technically running the armv7 image (per the setup wiki's recommendations) but posting here anyway since it's ARMv8 hardware.

Quick question: I installed arch, xorg, and lxde on my pi. The UI is extremely sluggish in most cases -- like I drag a window around and it visual lags behind where my cursor is, maybe a 500ms lag time. This is using standard programs like lxterm, nothing fancy. On raspbian, however, even heavier applications like chrome zip around on the screen. I don't understand how this is possible because a barebones lxde install on arch should be much more responsive...no?

Am I missing something obvious? If it's a more detailed answer and I just need to learn the ins and outs of optimizing my pi, that's cool. Don't worry about spelling it all out for me; I'm happy to do the learning. Just wanted a quick sanity check to see if there's something obvious I'm doing wrong.
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Re: raspberry pi 3 feels sluggish compared to raspbian

Postby graysky » Sat Jan 28, 2017 12:37 pm

Missing drivers perhaps? Kodi on my RPi2/3 is very smooth. Haven't tried a DE.
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Re: raspberry pi 3 feels sluggish compared to raspbian

Postby BetaPictoris » Mon Jan 30, 2017 2:03 am

Have you installed xf86-video-fbturbo-git package ?
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Re: raspberry pi 3 feels sluggish compared to raspbian

Postby theseankelly » Mon Jan 30, 2017 3:41 am

Nope, and a quick google for that package name pointed me at this page:

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Ra ... org_driver

Didn't even think to look at the main arch wiki for Raspi-specific stuff. :oops: Now I know, and I see there's a bunch of other suggestions for optimizations there! I'll take a look. Thanks.
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Re: raspberry pi 3 feels sluggish compared to raspbian

Postby modul » Mon Jan 30, 2017 8:49 pm

I use the standard driver "xf86-video-fbdev". Performance is pretty good.

I was nosy, so I'v installed "xf86-video-fbturbo-git". Performance with this driver is very bad. Maybe the setup needs some tweaks.
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Re: raspberry pi 3 feels sluggish compared to raspbian

Postby theseankelly » Tue Jan 31, 2017 3:19 am

Interesting. I notice better performance on xf86-video-fbturbo-git than on xf86-video-fbdev. What's your gpu_mem setting, out of curiosity?
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Re: raspberry pi 3 feels sluggish compared to raspbian

Postby modul » Tue Jan 31, 2017 11:05 am

gpu_mem=64

Should I try more with the "xf86-video-fbturbo-git"?
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Re: raspberry pi 3 feels sluggish compared to raspbian

Postby graysky » Tue Jan 31, 2017 11:34 am

$this->bbcode_second_pass_code('', '% cat /boot/config.txt
# See /boot/overlays/README for all available options
gpu_mem=192')
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Re: raspberry pi 3 feels sluggish compared to raspbian

Postby modul » Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:27 pm

More gpu_mem doesn't help.

I use framebuffer_depth=24. Only when I comment it out, the xf86-video-fbturbo-git driver is a little bit better.

My WM's are openbox or i3, while i3 is a tick faster.
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Re: raspberry pi 3 feels sluggish compared to raspbian

Postby jwhickman » Thu Feb 09, 2017 4:38 pm

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theseankelley', 'I') notice better performance on xf86-video-fbturbo-git than on xf86-video-fbdev.

You could try using vc4 (gpu_mem isn't used by the open source driver):
$this->bbcode_second_pass_code('', 'gpu_mem=16
dtoverlay=vc4-kms-v3d
avoid_warnings=2')Also, this thread should go in the armv7h forum since that's the ArchARM build being discussed here.
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