Slow Disc access? NTFS Bottleneck?

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Slow Disc access? NTFS Bottleneck?

Postby ChriD » Sat Feb 12, 2011 7:58 pm

Hi,

I've got the Problem that my Pogoplug seems to studder if i read FullHD Movies from
a Samba Share. I'm a Linux newbie :oops: and maybe someone please can help me?
I did some research and there is the information i gatherd until now

My System:

Pogoplug v2.0 with Arch Linux ARM install Linux where there is a samba server
Attached 3 x USB 2.0 external Discs at 1500GB 7200rpm NTFS Partitions an samba share

The Share is read by a TV (Samsung UE55C8780) with SamyGo Extensions and CIFS Mount on USB 2.0 Stick
attached to the TV


Problem Pogplug -->

Pogoplug Idle
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'C')pu(s): 0.7%us, 1.0%sy, 0.0%ni, 98.3%id, 0.0%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.0%si, 0.0%st


Pogoplog at work (reading from share)
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'C')pu(s): 0.3%us, 5.3%sy, 0.0%ni, 0.0%id, 93.4%wa, 0.7%hi, 0.3%si, 0.0%st


CPU usage of processes is few, but "wa" actions is too much!
I read that "wa" is something like that the CPU is waiting for IO actions to complete?
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', ' ')PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND
11153 root 20 0 21828 2652 1776 S 4.3 2.1 1:50.05 smbd
4479 root 20 0 3020 1176 512 S 3.3 0.9 1:37.60 mount.ntfs-3g


ntfs3g --> 3,3%
smbd --> 4,3%

So it seems that my little Pogoplug runns out of "IO - Power" when have to deal with Full-HD data from NTFS Devices :cry:
Does anyone have a Idea how to deal with this problem? Is there a chance to get some better performance?
I do not want to format my discs to ext3! (Of course this would be the best solution)

I only get to 2,0MB/s read/write access to the NTFS usb discs via samba share. I gto this rate with FTP too!
So it seems to be a Problem reading the NTFS Disc?! But shouldn't i get at least 6MB/s?

The speed of the disc themselves seems to be fine

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '/')dev/sdd1:
Timing buffered disk reads: 90 MB in 3.05 seconds = 29.53 MB/sec

/dev/sde1:
Timing buffered disk reads: 70 MB in 3.05 seconds = 22.95 MB/sec

/dev/sdf1:
Timing buffered disk reads: 70 MB in 3.10 seconds = 22.58 MB/sec



i found this thread. It seems to be the same problem, but there was no solution!
viewtopic.php?f=9&t=492&hilit=samba+NTFS+performance&start=10


so conlusion:

SAMBA NTFS READ/WRITE 2 MB/s
FTP NTFS READ/WRITE 2 MB/s
hdparm ???? READ 22 MB/s

Does someone have some advice for me to get some more performance?

thanks!
Chris
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Re: Slow Disc access? NTFS Bottleneck?

Postby ChriD » Sun Feb 20, 2011 7:13 pm

:roll: Seems to be that i am the only one with this problem?
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Re: Slow Disc access? NTFS Bottleneck?

Postby ant129 » Tue Jun 28, 2011 5:46 pm

Wow this is an old topic, probably already resolved but just in case I will tell you what I discovered with a similar issue.

I don't think it is an NTFS bottleneck, I have my external media drive connected and it is formatted NTFS, I can stream full HD no problem now. For me I had one computer that transferred files fast and one that did not. After a long internet search and trying everything I could, I learned that it was the hardware network card on my laptop. Fortunately for me I was able to upgrade the driver and my problems were solved. Other suggestions I saw were to buy a new NIC card.
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Re: Slow Disc access? NTFS Bottleneck?

Postby Pankuj » Mon Feb 27, 2012 3:19 am

Hey chris...
Did you ever get to the bottom of this?
was it NTFS or something else?
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Re: Slow Disc access? NTFS Bottleneck?

Postby WarheadsSE » Mon Feb 27, 2012 1:37 pm

Holy Moley Zombie Thread!

Could you outline your issues Pankuj?
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Re: Slow Disc access? NTFS Bottleneck?

Postby scorp » Mon Feb 27, 2012 2:32 pm

Hi,

I had similiar troubles.

I got an Pogoplug V3/Pro and my first setup was:

Archlinuxarm on an USB stick
NTFS USB 2,5" HDD attached (no extra power cable)

Transfer Rate via SFTP from Windows7 to Pogo: ~ 0,7 MB/s
ssh cpu usage ~70%
mount.ntfs cpu usage ~30%

via Samba from Windows7 to Pogo: 1,1 MB/s

New Setup:
archlinuxarm on ext3 formated USB 2,5" HDD (same HDD as before with NTFS)
Files stored on the same HDD:

sftp from W7 to Pogo: 2-3 MB/s
Samba from W7 to Pogo: 10-13 MB/s


conclusion: NTFS _IS_ the bottleneck


regards,
scorp

P.S: max speed of the HDD reached with USB and a usual PC: 30mb/s writing. Not fast, but I guess usual for 2,5" pocket hdds
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Re: Slow Disc access? NTFS Bottleneck?

Postby WarheadsSE » Mon Feb 27, 2012 2:37 pm

I can agree here.. NTFS is a *horrible* bottleneck. Slows my transfers by 75%
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Re: Slow Disc access? NTFS Bottleneck?

Postby dinjo » Wed Feb 29, 2012 6:46 am

Did anyone actually went ahead and tested the performance for ext4 ?
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Re: Slow Disc access? NTFS Bottleneck?

Postby WarheadsSE » Wed Feb 29, 2012 1:20 pm

Sure:
- WD MyBook 3TiB USB3.0
- 1x ext4 2.8TB partition
- ox820 2.6.31.x kernel

Transfer rates were around 13-16MB/s, depending on how busy the rest of the USB was.
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Re: Slow Disc access? NTFS Bottleneck?

Postby sloppy » Tue Mar 06, 2012 6:13 am

Don't think it is the NTFS......

Just installed arclinuxarm on pogoplug pogo-04....

Trasnfer speed from Win Vista to Samba (ext3 formatted hdd) is about 2...2,5 MB/s
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