Hey everyone. I got here via Lifehacker and the "Install a server onto your pogoplug" Mine's the pink one.
I am amazingly and maybe even annoyingly new to this so if you want to point me to books/pdf's to read to get me into the language then that to would be appreciated, assume I now slightly less than nothing!
The only pre-qeustion I have as I think I'm capable of following the youtube 'how to' is the usb key. Do they just mean any external USB storage like a 40gb HD Isn't that where all the gubbins will be placed? I didn't think the Pogoplug had any storage at all.
Or am I really missing the point and the USB key is something very specific.
Cheers for any replies
MrJuggles
Pre first step
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Pre first step
by MrJuggles » Sat Jan 07, 2012 6:20 pm
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Re: Pre first step
by pepedog » Sat Jan 07, 2012 7:00 pm
The 40Gb is ok.
Sorry to be brief, but this a good site for specific software https://wiki.archlinux.org/
Good luck
Sorry to be brief, but this a good site for specific software https://wiki.archlinux.org/
Good luck
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Re: Pre first step
by pitzips » Sat Jan 07, 2012 9:34 pm
Here's my understanding. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong. Maybe what I write can help wrap your mind around the idea.
So you have a Pogoplug which currently has a bios, some RAM, and a little storage space. The bios is the startup brains. When it turns on, it has to know what to load and where to load it. It takes a linux based operating system from the little amount of storage space it has, and runs it in the RAM. Now that what happens when it's stock.
When you hack it, what you are effectively doing it saying, "Hey BIOS, don't look at that little bit of storage space you have, but rather at this shiny USB key that I have." On that USB key, is ARCH Linux which runs instead of the OS that is on the 'onboard' storage.
So yes, any hard drive will work to run the new ARCH Linux, but you really don't need an entire 40gb hard drive to run an OS. The OS is small, and can fit on a USB key 1gb or higher.
Hope that helps
So you have a Pogoplug which currently has a bios, some RAM, and a little storage space. The bios is the startup brains. When it turns on, it has to know what to load and where to load it. It takes a linux based operating system from the little amount of storage space it has, and runs it in the RAM. Now that what happens when it's stock.
When you hack it, what you are effectively doing it saying, "Hey BIOS, don't look at that little bit of storage space you have, but rather at this shiny USB key that I have." On that USB key, is ARCH Linux which runs instead of the OS that is on the 'onboard' storage.
So yes, any hard drive will work to run the new ARCH Linux, but you really don't need an entire 40gb hard drive to run an OS. The OS is small, and can fit on a USB key 1gb or higher.
Hope that helps
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Re: Pre first step
by MrJuggles » Sat Jan 07, 2012 9:41 pm
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pitzips', 'H')ere's my understanding. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong. Maybe what I write can help wrap your mind around the idea.
So you have a Pogoplug which currently has a bios, some RAM, and a little storage space. The bios is the startup brains. When it turns on, it has to know what to load and where to load it. It takes a linux based operating system from the little amount of storage space it has, and runs it in the RAM. Now that what happens when it's stock.
When you hack it, what you are effectively doing it saying, "Hey BIOS, don't look at that little bit of storage space you have, but rather at this shiny USB key that I have." On that USB key, is ARCH Linux which runs instead of the OS that is on the 'onboard' storage.
So yes, any hard drive will work to run the new ARCH Linux, but you really don't need an entire 40gb hard drive to run an OS. The OS is small, and can fit on a USB key 1gb or higher.
Hope that helps
So you have a Pogoplug which currently has a bios, some RAM, and a little storage space. The bios is the startup brains. When it turns on, it has to know what to load and where to load it. It takes a linux based operating system from the little amount of storage space it has, and runs it in the RAM. Now that what happens when it's stock.
When you hack it, what you are effectively doing it saying, "Hey BIOS, don't look at that little bit of storage space you have, but rather at this shiny USB key that I have." On that USB key, is ARCH Linux which runs instead of the OS that is on the 'onboard' storage.
So yes, any hard drive will work to run the new ARCH Linux, but you really don't need an entire 40gb hard drive to run an OS. The OS is small, and can fit on a USB key 1gb or higher.
Hope that helps
Very much so and sooo at my level, thank you. In my mind I thought it was sort of (in a very burry way) like that. But in my mind a perm was an ace idea for a 21 year old male (18 years ago) and that was the single person period of my life.
Now I know that I'll stick something smaller in.
I was actually hoping to run a minecraft server off it for my nephews as I've been doing it off my mac until now. But that there, is way down the line.
Cheers again Mr Pitzips
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Re: Pre first step
by pitzips » Sat Jan 07, 2012 10:21 pm
It's my pleasure sir!
Running a Minecraft Server may be near to impossible with this hardware. The pogoplug is really good for services that require access to files. It makes great media servers or storage devices accessed while traveling. It is not great for things that require a log of processing and RAM. It would overload the pogoplug. Here are some hardware requirements for that type of server:
http://www.minecraftserverhosting.org/minimum-system-requirements-minecraft-servers/
Running a Minecraft Server may be near to impossible with this hardware. The pogoplug is really good for services that require access to files. It makes great media servers or storage devices accessed while traveling. It is not great for things that require a log of processing and RAM. It would overload the pogoplug. Here are some hardware requirements for that type of server:
http://www.minecraftserverhosting.org/minimum-system-requirements-minecraft-servers/
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Re: Pre first step
by MrJuggles » Sun Jan 08, 2012 12:33 am
That's annoying. I do have a tower I haven't dusted down in ages and always intended to so I guess I'll turn to that, should be fun. I'm still determined to see this bit through though, even if i never use it. My geek manhood is question now don't you know.
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Re: Pre first step
by MrJuggles » Sun Jan 08, 2012 1:22 am
Holy poop I did it. It took me 3+ hours and 4+attempts but I did it.
Now I have another question though!! Say I used the 40gb external hard drive. Does that mean I now have 40gb (give or take the operating system) to store my stuff on?
I'm sure there's loads more to do than that, but how would I get more storage for this webserver, so if I wanted to put my music on and such like.
Does that question even make sense....
Now I have another question though!! Say I used the 40gb external hard drive. Does that mean I now have 40gb (give or take the operating system) to store my stuff on?
I'm sure there's loads more to do than that, but how would I get more storage for this webserver, so if I wanted to put my music on and such like.
Does that question even make sense....
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Re: Pre first step
by WarheadsSE » Sun Jan 08, 2012 1:47 am
Simple answer: more storage = attach another drive
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Re: Pre first step
by pitzips » Sun Jan 08, 2012 3:57 am
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('WarheadsSE', 'S')imple answer: more storage = attach another drive
Exactly this. I like keeping my data and my operating system separate. No need mucking with the OS drive, when I can just attach a 1TB external and leave the OS drive alone.
When you attach the other drive, you may not see anything happen, that's because you have to "mount" the drive.
Search around for "how to mount a drive linux" and you'll see stuff like fdisk, mount, and umount. Essentially, you are telling this directory (ie /media/drive1/) to access the hard drive. Bam, more storage.
You can also have things auto-mount. Search around for "udev automount".
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